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I need to replace my PPF too, not because it's damaged, it's actually in perfect condition but it's old. i bought a steamer to take it off then I'll send it ine for a company to put a new one back on. I hope the paint doesn't rip off!
 

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I need to replace my PPF too, not because it's damaged, it's actually in perfect condition but it's old. i bought a steamer to take it off then I'll send it ine for a company to put a new one back on. I hope the paint doesn't rip off!
Why don't you let the PPF installers remove it - don't trust them? They do removal all the time so they should be quite proficient if you choose a competent shop. If you remove it you also risk getting rock chips/paint damage if you're driving it to a shop to get new film installed...you never know!

Also, what's the typical shelf life for PPF in your view? Seems to be varying opinions when I research it. My car still has original PPF from when it was new, not sure when I should refresh it.
 

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How do you find white for paint maintenance/upkeep? What are you getting done detail wise - power polish, ceramic coating? I was always jealous of white in terms of hiding paint swirls and minor rock chips. Black shows everything
I have a black Exige/911/M5, so I'm all to familiar with the difficulties of black. So far with the white, general dirt, road grime shows up just the same. Paint swirls are still their, just not as noticeable. You can definitely do a quick wipe down and call it good with white. Rock chips are a bit less noticable depending how deep they go. White also is more forgiving to touch up paint (assuming you get the right color.
Regarding the detail, I'm getting the PPF removed, then a general clay-bar polish. Then a spray on ceramic quick application (not a full ceramic coating because I'm poor). Normally I do this sort of stuff myself, but this car hasn't been done in....probably forever, so I want someone who will give it a good base to go over it, see if they can get some of the blemishes out, etc.
Jet black is still my favorite 'color' on any vehicle, but the white is a close second. My wifes Trackhawk is the tri-coat pearl white which is amazing.
 

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That makes sense, I know on white you can still see the swirls in the sun at an angle but it definitely disguises them more. So did I read that correctly you're having your old PPF removed and not replacing it after the paint blemishes are corrected? What's your rationale behind that, are you not a big supporter of PPF? Looks like your car is in excellent shape from the photos so I'm sure you want to keep it that way.

And I agree with you on black being my fav too. Nothing beats it when it's freshly detailed. I have an M3 that is 'jerez black' and although it's more of a midnight blue due to the metallic flake, it still looks awesome when clean. BMW 'jet black' is very similar to Lamborghini 'nero noctis' where it's a non-metallic, deep solid black. My Perf is nero noctis and I love how rich the color is it's like staring into a black hole. You have no idea how hard it was for me to find a black HP coupe. You'd think it would be a more common color!
 

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Why don't you let the PPF installers remove it - don't trust them? They do removal all the time so they should be quite proficient if you choose a competent shop. If you remove it you also risk getting rock chips/paint damage if you're driving it to a shop to get new film installed...you never know!

Also, what's the typical shelf life for PPF in your view? Seems to be varying opinions when I research it. My car still has original PPF from when it was new, not sure when I should refresh it.


I'm a hands on guy, I already bought the steamer last year for this operation. I'm also more meticulous than anyone out there. If I could easily get pre cut PPF I would install it myself. Those who did my car were not very good. However I may let them do everything, I have so many things to do I don't think I even have time to put a profile up for dating. I have to give myself a kick in the butt take an appointment for PPF, drive there get a taxi back home and go to work.

From what I read PPF is maximum 8 years, however if it isn't scorched/sun baked like texas or California then add a few more years. Mine is in perfect condition however it's surely original at 11 years. Sometime I wonder what happens if you leave it on forever if it's in good shape?

I also have to plan a pleasure drive for 30+ Ferraris. Luzifer and his arancio Lambo leading the pack! :LOL::LOL: I think we'll do the same route as I planned last year, they loved it. However only 3 were able to keep up, the rest were too damn slow. If I plan another route I think they'll get seriously lost and the views are not great.

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I'm a hands on guy, I already bought the steamer last year for this operation. I'm also more meticulous than anyone out there. If I could easily get pre cut PPF I would install it myself. Those who did my car were not very good. However I may let them do everything, I have so many things to do I don't think I even have time to put a profile up for dating. I have to give myself a kick in the butt take an appointment for PPF, drive there get a taxi back home and go to work.

From what I read PPF is maximum 8 years, however if it isn't scorched/sun baked like texas or California then add a few more years. Mine is in perfect condition however it's surely original at 11 years. Sometime I wonder what happens if you leave it on forever if it's in good shape?

I also have to plan a pleasure drive for 30+ Ferraris. Luzifer and his arancio Lambo leading the pack! :LOL::LOL: I think we'll do the same route as I planned last year, they loved it. However only 3 were able to keep up, the rest were too damn slow. If I plan another route I think they'll get seriously lost and the views are not great.

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Tsk tsk who let the Alfa sneak in... lol
 

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Tsk tsk who let the Alfa sneak in... lol
Ha, they could of said who let the bulls in! The Ferrari club lets all Italian cars in for the event. There were a few Maserati too. The provincial president told me last year he really wanted to take his Lambo out for the ride but it would of looked bad if he did so he has to take one of his Ferraris. :D While he was looking at mine I'm sure he was daydreaming bringing his car out.
 

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Speaking of black cars, I took the Vette out last night for a meeting for the upcoming event, even if it's a 10 year old car I received without exaggerating 6 thumbs up including 2 people in the back of a convertible mustang with it's top down who turned around with big smile and thumbs up on the highway. Then a fast bike rider with theatrics gestures. It gave me a boost to wash the car when I got back home because I have been putting it off for a bit.

In my opinion swirls, (thousands of circles) appear on the paint due to those orbital polishers and possibly hand washing in circles. I only wash the car by hand in lattitudenal manner. I do not have this problem compared to those who display their cars at car shows.
 

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Speaking of black cars, I took the Vette out last night for a meeting for the upcoming event, even if it's a 10 year old car I received without exaggerating 6 thumbs up including 2 people in the back of a convertible mustang with it's top down who turned around with big smile and thumbs up on the highway. Then a fast bike rider with theatrics gestures. It gave me a boost to wash the car when I got back home because I have been putting it off for a bit.

In my opinion swirls, (thousands of circles) appear on the paint due to those orbital polishers and possibly hand washing in circles. I only wash the car by hand in lattitudenal manner. I do not have this problem compared to those who display their cars at car shows.
Black is king! You should sell the pumpkin and join the dark side Luzifer...you can still have orange accents like mine ;)

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Black is king! You should sell the pumpkin and join the dark side Luzifer...you can still have orange accents like mine ;)

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I like black but it doesn't beat borealis or atlas! For me a Lambo needs to be special, that means colors you don't see on regular cars. No way would I buy any other color than orange, viola pacifae and some rare paler blue. balloon white is pretty cool too.

Getting a Perf, I would need to sell the H at a loss then paying the difference, taking account of the loss and taxes I paid not long ago then paying them again and more, it makes no financial sense for if I base myself on the race exhaust specs and if that's what they meant, I have the same HP as the Perf ( race exhaust 5% power increase and 5% torque increase), the perf has better handling but less exhaust sound.

If I'm going to spend that much it would be a cheaper Aventador that I would need to have re-painted. Or if I had more money I would spend it on my new crush the orange Sterrato.
 
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Not saying a Perf specifically, a black LP610 would be fine haha. Would you ever try a black wrap? Before you remove your old PPF, it would be perfect time to try one out. With your orange interior and calipers it would look pretty sinister.

Also, I wouldn't be so quick to say Perf has less sound. My exhaust has been neutered by the dreaded software emissions update so it's not a good comparison to go by my word as my car has been quieted. If you find an uncorked Perf that doesn't have the sound deadening software update, many say they're the loudest of the Huracan bunch as it's essentially a straight pipe exhaust.
 

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Not saying a Perf specifically, a black LP610 would be fine haha. Would you ever try a black wrap? Before you remove your old PPF, it would be perfect time to try one out. With your orange interior and calipers it would look pretty sinister.

Also, I wouldn't be so quick to say Perf has less sound. My exhaust has been neutered by the dreaded software emissions update so it's not a good comparison to go by my word as my car has been quieted. If you find an uncorked Perf that doesn't have the sound deadening software update, many say they're the loudest of the Huracan bunch as it's essentially a straight pipe exhaust.

My PPF like a few other H I've seen is only on the front, mirrors and a little bit on the bottom sides.

A wrap to me devalues a car with razor cut marks in the paint, if they removed parts to apply it, clips are broken, could now have missing bolts and loose or misaligned body parts. To me it's a complete waste of so much money to have to remove it only a few years down the road.

I didn't know a perf sounds louder than a race exhaust, that's cool. It doesn't seem to be mentioned a lot. Your Perf has been neutered that's really upsetting.
 

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That makes sense, I know on white you can still see the swirls in the sun at an angle but it definitely disguises them more. So did I read that correctly you're having your old PPF removed and not replacing it after the paint blemishes are corrected? What's your rationale behind that, are you not a big supporter of PPF? Looks like your car is in excellent shape from the photos so I'm sure you want to keep it that way.

And I agree with you on black being my fav too. Nothing beats it when it's freshly detailed. I have an M3 that is 'jerez black' and although it's more of a midnight blue due to the metallic flake, it still looks awesome when clean. BMW 'jet black' is very similar to Lamborghini 'nero noctis' where it's a non-metallic, deep solid black. My Perf is nero noctis and I love how rich the color is it's like staring into a black hole. You have no idea how hard it was for me to find a black HP coupe. You'd think it would be a more common color!
Yes, having the PPF removed. It is obvious how much more yellow the PPF panels are over the non-PPF panels. Plus it was done with the pre-cut junk, so the corners and edges (where the really bad chips seem to happen) aren't protected, making the whole thing look even worse.
I've never liked PPF, but I'm old, so I've been seeing it develop over many years. I know several detailers and body shop guys who always advise against PPF. 1, the cost.....it is REALLY expensive. You can do a lot of paint work for the cost of Quality PPF. 2, Paint should cure at least 12 months after being applied before applying PPF. So, note of factory fresh cars with PPF.....very good chance of clear or paint pealing off when removing that PPF. And 12 months is minimum, some colors or manufacturers put on paint that doesn't fully cure until 18 months or more. 3, there is the impacts. PPF is GREAT for tiny little pebble or sand, nicks, etc. however, larger rocks....think the size that wouldn't dent the metal, but would take a good chunk of paint off, still destroy the paint under the PPF, the PPF just holds the paint in place, so when you go to remove the PPF, a big chunk of paint in that area comes off with it.
So, I feel it best to just deal with the road damage, as I have no issues getting paint correction or a respray down the road.
With the following exceptions - I am adding new PPF to the headlights. At the insane cost for LP headlights....I do not want to sandblast them. I will put PPF on the front rear quarters of my Exige and maybe 911 to keep road debri from the front tires from sandblasting that area. The side skirts on the G seem to protect it enough.

Deep Jet black is the best....not a huge fan of metallic added to black....takes the 'blackness' away. I knew one of the Lambo black matched BMW 'jet black; good to know it's Nero Noctis. I just always use Jet black as it is the most widely known. 'Staring at a black hole' is a great way to say it. No one will change my mind that Jet Black is the most beatiful color on a car.....for about 18seconds after washing until it gets dirty. Hahaha.
 
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