Aventador Dreamer or Possibility?

[Luzifer]

Let me be the first car dreamer in this section. I haven't checked Aventador listings in a long time but what I have noticed are lower priced A's since pre covid, it took 5 years for the market to adjust back to somewhat normal! Like 150K less than a few months ago. A few months ago the cheapest car was around 500K CAD but now we are starting to see them below 400K.

I didn't even know there were any orange A's in Canada! Would it be reasonable to save up for some time and sell the Corvette and Huracan to get a glorious sounding V12 engine? Sure it might not be there when I'm ready but if another presents itself down the road? The things that might weigh on the con side of pros & cons is the black interior & black seats, I love my orange interior of my H but I can't be too picky as it's the only one I've seen for sale. The other con are the parts, the Huracan has less expensive parts because they can be crossed linked with the R8 and plentiful, the parts for the Aventador must cost a whole lot more and rarer.
Another consideration I hope the seats are adjustable to a large setting like the H because I sat in an Aventador spyder I had an extremely hard time to get in and impossible to get out, the owner had to help me out, I couldn't get my head out of the pillar. The guy was really small though so the seat might of been all the way minimized?

Check out this... beauty and the beast
2015
16210 km
380K CAD











The Aventador I sat in 2 years ago...

 

[Sakura]

The only downside with the AV, in my opinion, is the gearbox. It’s quite expensive to fix or replace, and about one out of five tends to develop leaks.

If you’re handy (which I think you are), you can probably manage the gearbox issue. The car should be well within reach if you are in good health and your work continues to bring in steady income. You could also consider using a loan. Many people dislike the idea of financing a car, but I think it depends on the situation. If you’re healthy, earning steadily, and don't have dependents (no demanding wife or crazy kids), the risk is very low.

I believe more used ones will appear on the market soon, especially with the trade tensions going on. I don't really know your exact finances, but if you can stretch a little and get it, go for it It's V12!

 

[Luzifer]

Yeah the infamous gearbox, might as well tack on a 50-80K to the budget.

I haven't had a loan since I was 19 years old except for a mortgage. I did check for a partial loan for the H as I wanted it a year sooner but my bank laughed me out of the office. The other was an online application which was declined. It upset me if I did get a partial loan the interest at 9-11%, it added tens of thousands in interest, it was eye watering!

 

[Sakura]

Yeah the infamous gearbox, might as well tack on a 50-80K to the budget.

I haven't had a loan since I was 19 years old except for a mortgage. I did check for a partial loan for the H as I wanted it a year sooner but my bank laughed me out of the office. The other was an online application which was declined. It upset me if I did get a partial loan the interest at 9-11% added tens of thousands in interest, it was eye watering!

Some banks ask for collateral, family background, your workout schedule, what pet you have, etc, because they must be sure they can recover the loan. They are absolutely not your friend. That makes private sales difficult. A workaround is to apply for the loan through a dealer. Dealers are often eager to close a sale and will vouch for the deal to meet sales targets and earn future service and maintenance income. Lower pct like 3 to 4% is possible. Just don't tell the dealer you plan to do the service yourself

I know the AV is nice, but don't you prefer the STO? It has a more aggressive and timeless look, and it is much cheaper to maintain. It is still an expensive purchase, but the long-term cost is negligible compares to AV. When I toured the factory, I saw a few AVs having their gearboxes replaced with the engines completely removed. It was not a pleasant sight and looked like a serious money drain.

 

[Luzifer]

I love the look of STO's however at the moment they are priced very high.So high they are more expensive than most Aventadors! I would hate to modify my car with body kits, I think the car looks perfect as it is. It would be like a pretty woman having lip injection., looks like they were stung by wasps. If I had a second H that I wouldn't mind.

EVO 300-400K
Tecnica 400-460K
STO 460-540K

2 years ago a dealer offered 12% rate, it was the dishonest dealer trying to sell me a very damaged car with a fake PPI from the garage. I doubt it dropped below 9%.

 

[Luzifer]

There must be a reason why the majority at the other place have Huracans instead of Aventadors, looks like they all could afford an A.

 

[Sakura]

My dealer once showed me their secret storage garage, which was mostly filled with used AVs covered in dust. The Hs were kept on their main lot because they move fast. AVs are more about the scissor door and sound, but they are absurdly heavy and hard to drive, absolutely terrible on the track. I raced them once about five years ago.

A 12 percent loan rate is insane. That is the starting rate you see here rom loan sharks, and they usually go between 12 and 25 percent. I have no idea how this can even be legal. They must have connections in the government. If I took a mortgage now, it would be around 2 to 3 percent, and a car loan would be about 3 percent. I think my credit is good, but I do not really pay much attention to it. If a bank wants to lend to me, fine. If not, I will find another one. It's a fckin paper money and has value only because the cheating gov says so. When the gov collapsed, the paper money has zip value.

 

[Luzifer]

Mortgage rates were 3-4% pre covid, after covid it went up to 8%. The gov started to drop their rate but my bank decide to raise it!

Regular car interest rates are 9-11%
Loan sharks are 25%
Credit cards are 24%

Over here we are forever oppressed by taxes.
In my opinion those who take out loans are rich because of all the interest they pay.

 

[Luzifer]

I like this video because we have a true opinion from someone who bought it and looks like he's not really happy with his purchase. I like to see both sides of the coin.

 

[Sakura]

I like this video because we have a true opinion from someone who bought it and looks like he's not really happy with his purchase. I like to see both sides of the coin.

Basically he bought a car that doesn’t suit his lifestyle. He likes practicality. Sold STO because he thinks it’s a “race” car. True race cars have totally different trans. I think that all there is to it. I don’t think he owns the car long enough to appreciate it and obviously no mention of maintenance

 

[Luzifer]

Basically he bought a car that doesn’t suit his lifestyle. He likes practicality. Sold STO because he thinks it’s a “race” car. True race cars have totally different trans. I think that all there is to it. I don’t think he owns the car long enough to appreciate it and obviously no mention of maintenance

According to Misha(The Nurburgring expert) thinks the STO isn't really suitable for the track as you would expect. I think the Aventador is for "Shock & Awe", which would fit me perfectly as I find it gorgeous although I think it needs a wing for the first gen. The V12 scream is like a second "cherry" on top.

I think he prefers a tamer ride, a Ferrari probably more his style. I think he'll sell it within a few weeks, you could see he was holding back not to show his complete disappointment.

 

[Sakura]

According to Misha(The Nurburgring expert) thinks the STO isn't really suitable for the track as you would expect. I think the Aventador is for "Shock & Awe", which would fit me perfectly as I find it gorgeous although I think it needs a wing for the first gen. The V12 scream is like a second "cherry" on top.

I think he prefers a tamer ride, a Ferrari probably more his style. I think he'll sell it within a few weeks, you could see he was holding back not to show his complete disappointment.

You are spot on about his preference on tamer ride. This guy has a horse already tattooed on his forehead

In my opinion, the only cars that are truly meant or "suitable" for the track are full race cars with extreme weight reduction, a sequential gearbox, race tires, etc. We know these cars often cannot even reverse, and most of them are driven only by pro drivers. Everything else is really not suitable for the track because it is still a road legal car. People often forget that the STO is basically the road-legal interpretation of the Super Trofeo. For amateur track lovers, it is more than enough to outrun most cars at any circuit. It is fast, light, and very easy to push. Absolute beast for amateurs.

Aventador, especially the early models, is very hard to drive on the track because you get that wiggle during braking and heavy on corners. But for road legal car, it is a gorgeous car without doubt. If you can handle the repair and maintenance, I think you should seriously consider it. Just be careful because it can be a money sinking pit.

 

[Luzifer]

You are spot on about his preference on tamer ride. This guy has a horse already tattooed on his forehead

In my opinion, the only cars that are truly meant or "suitable" for the track are full race cars with extreme weight reduction, a sequential gearbox, race tires, etc. We know these cars often cannot even reverse, and most of them are driven only by pro drivers. Everything else is really not suitable for the track because it is still a road legal car. People often forget that the STO is basically the road-legal interpretation of the Super Trofeo. For amateur track lovers, it is more than enough to outrun most cars at any circuit. It is fast, light, and very easy to push. Absolute beast for amateurs.

Aventador, especially the early models, is very hard to drive on the track because you get that wiggle during braking and heavy on corners. But for road legal car, it is a gorgeous car without doubt. If you can handle the repair and maintenance, I think you should seriously consider it. Just be careful because it can be a money sinking pit.

Horse tatoo on the forehead!

That's what scares me, repairs and parts. You also need ODIS equipment to read codes, I bet it costs many many thousands for it and are the codes incomprehensible?

Anyway I'll be safe for a long time, the budget isn't there and I know money would be put to better use like planning my retirement.

 

[Luzifer]

A funny thing, when I was driving with the skeleton a man and his son probably less than 12 years old, I heard the father say to his son it's a Maclaren. The kid exclaimed no it's a Lambo!

I noticed young most kids know their supercars but most adults have no clue what brand it is. So many guys and older men ask what the car is and when I say the brand they have zero recognition to the brand! I bet most don't even know what Lamborghini is.

 

[Sakura]

Horse tatoo on the forehead!

That's what scares me, repairs and parts. You also need ODIS equipment to read codes, I bet it costs many many thousands for it and are the codes incomprehensible?

Anyway I'll be safe for a long time, the budget isn't there and I know money would be put to better use like planning my retirement.

I forgot about the dealer's diagnostic machine. I think they charge a flat fee for using it at every service. I don't remember the exact amount without checking the details, but I think it was around $500.

Same thing happened here too. In my hidden camera footage, most people who walked up to my car checked the badge first. One woman even confidently gestured that the doors would go up. I'm glad I wasn't there

 

[Luzifer]

I thought of something today, to get myself a Borealis Aventador for my work van, to set myself for some extra motivation.

 

[Sakura]

I thought of something today, to get myself a Borealis Aventador for my work van, to set myself for some extra motivation.

Anyone that sees it would ask you if you have a Ferrari

 

[Luzifer]

Anyone that sees it would ask you if you have a Ferrari

Ha! I have the orange H there at the moment, I doubt people notice it. Heck the city guy must see it at least 6-8 times every year and he never said a word. I told this story before, he thought I had purchased an orange C8 so I pointed to the dash I said you mean this one? He said a Corvette. The secret is still safe even if it's on display all the time!

 

[Luzifer]

I took a look at the orange A in more details and noticed why it was the cheapest in the country. I found it had a carfax, it had a collision with an insurance claim of 124K to repair it. I'm curious about the damage I'll call to see if I can obtain the pictures.

*END OF SEASON PRICE REDUCED

• (Has minor claim on Carfax, We can provide pictures on the damage, Very minor damage)

 

[Sakura]

If they described 124k repair as minor damage then it should be damage solely to its carbon fibers. And obviously it must include full money back guarantee if the chassis is found bent after purchase.